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Old May 1, 2019, 10:59 am   #1
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I've been working hard to update my knowledge about mushrooms in general. The classifications of genus and species have been updated dramatically, along with new discoveries, plus DNA sequencing and toxicology testing being done.

What is being said now, is that the genus Verpa is essentially a morel, and as edible as Morchella. The other "false morel", Gyromitra, is also mostly edible, with a couple exceptions, one of which does grow in Michigan, G. esculenta. Also important to note, is that ALL of these three genus can or do contain the same toxins. In small amounts, these toxins are destroyed by heat, while in other cases, such as G. esculenta, it's difficult because of the high concentrations.

It's very interesting stuff. There are now literally hundreds of unique Morchella species identified worldwide. Wikipedia is NOT the best source, but it's an easy read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morchella
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Old May 1, 2019, 1:56 pm   #2
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Good info. I'm bring driven nuts with all the changes in names etc. It's hard to keep up. I'm rusty. lol
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Old May 1, 2019, 2:03 pm   #3
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So Verpa ARE edible?
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Old May 1, 2019, 2:07 pm   #4
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Mushroom Jack has been eating them for years. He only eats the caps though.
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Old May 2, 2019, 10:54 am   #5
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My family ate Verpa's for years, mostly just the caps and didn't have any issues eating them. My mushroom guide, I believe was written in the 70's, also said that they are edible. I will say that I don't take the chance anymore.
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Old May 2, 2019, 2:25 pm   #6
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I still will only eat the black (morchella angusticeps) and white (morchella esculenta) morels. I advise everyone else to do the same. Why take a chance on anything else, that may or may not cause an issue?
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Old May 2, 2019, 7:49 pm   #7
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I never had a y trouble eating them, but I don't because the last doesn't compare to blacks and yellows in my opinion. But there were soany opinions on it that it was interesting to just sit back and follow the conversation. Disagreements are sometimes fun to watch.
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Old May 5, 2019, 2:30 pm   #8
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You may not see the effects of inhaling asbestos for a long time either... or smoking, or drinking too much...
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Old May 20, 2019, 9:13 am   #9
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Knowledge is key. Even Morchella contain an unknown toxin that some people are highly susceptible to. The real problem comes from two main sources: Use of common names, and folklore presented as fact.

Three Gyromitra grow in MI: brunnea, esculenta, and korfii. Only one has ever shown traces of gyromitrin toxin in extensive lab study: esculenta.

There are two types of Verpa that grow here, conica and bohemica, the latter being the "cap" type that looks very similar to morels. They are no more toxic than "true morels", but to each their own. Always identify to species, and it's always up to you what you consume.

I'm done with morels for the year. Got about 3 lbs, not my best year but pretty good.
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Old May 20, 2019, 9:56 am   #10
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Thanks Craig. I'm with ya on the edibility fo the ones listed. Still looking for Korfii
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