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Old Aug 25, 2012, 1:56 pm   #1
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Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

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Old man of the woods
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Old Aug 25, 2012, 2:41 pm   #2
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

The first picture looks like Amanitas to me !!! The second picture, the one on the left looks like an Oudemansiella, and the 3rd is Strobilomyces.
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Old Aug 25, 2012, 4:36 pm   #3
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

First let me say I'm fairly new to summer and fall mushrooms... but I have to agree, those don't look like honeys to me.
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Old Aug 26, 2012, 7:23 am   #4
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

They don't look like honeys to me either....
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Old Aug 26, 2012, 1:30 pm   #5
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

Thanks for the replies.
I agree with your second and third picture ID, and oudemansiella is another name for the platterful mushroom.
I should have provided more ID details on the pictures. Concerning the first picture, the gills are attached to the stalk, there is a veil when they open that then leaves a ring, spore print creamy white, tacky cap that is honey brown in color. Found on ground beneath an oak tree, some in clusters, some solitary but all under the same tree. Definitely not amanitas (I dug around several cut stalks, no sac). To be sure, I went back and dug up all the stalks, and no sacs.
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 7:20 am   #6
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Since honeys grow on wood,here is another tool I use....an ice pick...

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Question Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

Thanks again for your thoughtful replies. I joined this site to learn from the experts and to share knowledge. Glenn, I make a habit of breathing on a regular basis.

Re the platterful mushroom, per Rogers Mushroom, "Tricholomopsis platyphylla (Pers. ex Fr.) Sing. syn. Oudemansiella platyphylla (Pers. ex Fr.)". Also says the same thing in Audubon field guide. Never said they were good to eat or edible.

Re the honey (armillariella species) vs amanita discussion, I am still convinced that the mushrooms in my photo are armillariella and not amanita. I also am puzzled as to why every guide book I have consulted does not warn of amanita as a possible look alike for the honey mushroom. And if the group is convinced of this danger, the honey stumper vs galerina post by Frank (which is an excellent reminder by the way) should be amended to add this caution.

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PS Jack and Glenn , what specifically makes you think the mushrooms pictured are amanita?
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 3:59 pm   #8
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

They weren't warts, just general debris from poking up thru the ground....I brushed them right off after the photos.
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Old Aug 28, 2012, 12:58 pm   #9
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

The mushrooms in my photo were growing on oak tree roots buried in the soil.

Based on the google photos (thanks for the link Glenn), the universe of honey mushrooms contains a large variation of cap color and other characterisitics. Further reading on the web brought out that it is now likely that there are a number of sub species of armillarea and each has somewhat different characteristics. Thus when they don't look like the honeys you have seen, that may be the reason. ??

Thanks for all the help, it certainly caused me to refocus on my ID work.

BTW, I have eaten these same mushrooms not only recently but last fall when they were profuse on the oak tree roots and stumps. No trips to the hospital. Funny thing tho, I really don't care for the taste of the armillarea that much. Need a new recipe.
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 12:13 am   #10
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Re: Honeys, platterful, old man of the woods

Something that has been puzzling me in this thread. I was under the impression that along with the characteristics that have been mentioned, the presence of "whiskers" on the top cap were an important characteristic of the honey mushroom. We picked a bunch last fall and that was one of the starting points. I thought the honeys were great! Stored well simmered and frozen as well as dried. Happy Hunting!
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