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Old Apr 15, 2014, 10:03 pm   #1
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Tree identification (southeast michigan)

hi guys, I'm new to morel hunting and have been spending a lot of time on my bike this spring to find potential morel spots in my area. Today I found a very large wooded area with plenty of cottonwoods, tulips, ash, and elms (or at least I believe so). Wondering if any of the veterans out there could help me with a id on these trees. since it is so early I only got pictures of the bark, but any help/thoughts/suggestions would be much appreciated.

1st picture: is what I believe to be a ash, dead and splitting bark at the top.

2nd picture: is another one that I think is a ash also dead.

3rd picture: is a large cottonwood on the left and a small elm on the right?
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Old Apr 16, 2014, 4:42 am   #2
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Re: Tree identification (southeast michigan)

I do believe you nailed the identifications Jon. Good job!

Elms have a definite diamond pattern that is connected top and bottom. I call the ash semi-diamond pattern. Ash pattern is not as distinct as the Elm is. More like an "X". Also White Ash has a very dark bark and elm is light grey.
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Old Apr 16, 2014, 8:54 pm   #3
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Re: Tree identification (southeast michigan)

Great pics.........Great identification. I think this will help alot of folks here.
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Old Apr 17, 2014, 7:08 pm   #4
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agree with your identifications, nicely done! Just don't spend time around those dead ash... you more than likely will find very very little to nothing! You're time is more valuable around other trees :)
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Re: Tree identification (southeast michigan)

Great! thank you everyone for the feedback. went and checked up on the spot today and came up with nothing. Shluby, I was under the Impression that dead ash was a great place to look. is it this area in Michigan that they don't favor ash? which trees should I focus on?
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Re: Tree identification (southeast michigan)

http://www.michiganmorels.com/funtal...hread.php?t=67

Try here too. Also old apple trees.
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Re: Tree identification (southeast michigan)

Recently dead or dying Elms still produce yellow morels.

Dead ash? Zilch usually. Live ash will host Black morels.
Trees that look like 1st photo will be your best bet for black morels.

Hopes this helps you.
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Old Apr 19, 2014, 11:46 am   #8
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I wish dead ash was a candidate... I'd have tons of good ones! Unfortunately, when the ash tree dies, the morels usually disappear. I have found a few around a dead ash or two before... but certainly not worth looking around. RECENTLY dead elm and cottonwood are what you want to look for when searching around dead trees. By recent, i mean within the last 2-3 years. The first year will have the biggest flush, followed by a diminished flush each year after that until no life by the mushrooms can be sustained. The reason you find morels under a dead tree, is because the tree was the host for life for the mushrooms mycelium, and when the tree dies the companionship between the two dies also; mushrooms are the fruit of the mycelium, and so they fruit to spread their spores to another location because their current local environment will not sustain life for the colony! Hope this helps clear up any misconception. This is the reason why you won't find morels around a healthy elm. the mushroom's mycelium is happily living with the elm trees roots, and likewise the elm tree is happy to have the morel mycelium around its roots; they are companions. When the tree dies, life is threatened to the morel mycelium colony, and boom you get fruiting morels!
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Re: Tree identification (southeast michigan)

Live ash trees are also good places to find yellows. I found two a couple of years ago in an open field with scattered ash trees a couple of years ago near my house. (None there last year.)

Up in Manistee National Forest, pretty much every yellow I have found was within 5 ft. of a Black Ash tree.

Old apple orchards also host yellows.
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Here's a video on how to identify dead elms I found on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wi_MM8-Yj4
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